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| Kennedy vs Nixon - the most famous of modern times |
As a youngster, when I participated in friendly informal debates or in contests, I was always left wanting; with a hollow feeling whether I 'won' or 'lost' a debate. It seemed to me, that whether it was the friends listening in, during the informal debates, or the judges in the more formal setting - the declaration of the winner was more based on style, preparation, dramatics, humor and incidentally, substance!
Also, in a debate, it is seldom encouraged for the debater of one side, to say, "I hear you - I understand where you are coming from," to the opponent. For, in the context of an argument, that would be tantamount to a concession!
Over the years, I have come to value debates a lot. But for a very different reason. For me a debate is not about winning or losing an argument. A debate is a way to take positions to clarify a situation. To throw more light on a problem at hand. The most inscrutable, thorny, sticky wicket questions that we are eternally faced with, do not lend themselves to resolution through a facile 'debate', as the word is generally understood.
But the very same style, humor, dramatics taken for the purpose of clarification, all of a sudden serves the purpose of taking a rather dry subject and infusing it with interest, perhaps even a thrill!
In the real world that we live in there are debates to be had that are of great consequence. Some are in politics. Others in religion. Some in philosophy, and others in science.
I have built below, a subjective collection of great debates that I have been following. If taken in the light of 'clarification', rather than winner vs loser; I believe we can examine these problems with deep and objective interest. Whereas, if we were to examine them from a who won and who lost perspective, we would shut our minds to the 'who lost' side!
Hope you enjoy these debates, as much as I am....
I. Politics: Liberalism vs Conservatism (Left vs Right)
Niall Ferguson on the right:
Paul Krugman on the left:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/20/paul-krugman-niall-ferguson-newsweek_n_1810136.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
II. Economics: Free Markets vs Government Regulation
Larry Summers vs Joseph Stiglitz
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| Larry Summers |
The debate:
http://prospect.org/article/shoeless-joe-stiglitz
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| Joseph Stiglitz |
III. Social Change: Slavery
Abraham Lincoln vs Stephen Douglas
The debate:
http://www.agingonthevine.blogspot.com/2010/08/lincoln-douglas-debates.html
IV. Religion: God vs Science
Karen Armstrong vs Richard Dawkins
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| Karen Armstrong |
The debate:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203440104574405030643556324.html
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| Richard Dawkins |
V. Philosophy
Karl Popper vs Ludwig Wittgenstein













3 comments:
This is great! Where are the Lincoln-Douglas debates? Is there a link? Did you know that it is said that Lincoln had such a high voice that audiences would laugh when he started speaking? Especially because of his 6' 4" austere appearance (didn't have a beard during debates -- only after he became president).
So then, based on what you’ve provided as exemplars, you’ll not think this also worthy of being considered a great debate: Tastes Great! Less Filling! - WSJ.com
OK, how about now: Miller Lite Girls Get Into Cat Fight Uncensored
Yeaaah, I thought so….
Spirited write-up! Except the first debate, I have been following the
others. Debate is as ancient in India as it was in Greece, perhaps
even more ancient since the Upanishads speak of and encourage it.
However I am endlessly amazed to see how chauvinistic debate has
become in modern times, particularly the political debate in India.
Parties will expel you for the faintest acknowledgement of legitimacy
of an opponent's thought. "Touche" is heresy. How did the educated who
participate in the political discourse and the bystanders permit this
degeneration? The vestiges of true political debate are to be found
only in the Fourth Estate's outpourings, the quality of which is
rapidly deteriorating. At least the rabidity hasn't seized the
scientific discourse. Philosophy is anyway practically dead!
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